EP: 34 Navigating Difficult Relationships: Insights from Beyond Difficult with Rachel Samson & Dr. Jessie Stern
In this episode of Soul Therapy, with Chelle, I’m joined by the brilliant Rachel Samson and Dr. Jessie Stern, co-authors of Beyond Difficult, a guide to understanding and navigating challenging relationships.
What begins as a lighthearted introduction quickly deepens into a powerful conversation about why people can be “difficult,” how our own triggers shape interactions, and how compassion and curiosity can shift the way we respond.
Rachel and Jessie share the story of how they met across continents, the surprising path that led them to write Beyond Difficult, and the realities of creating a book in the “margins” of busy lives from parenting toddlers to juggling academic careers.
We talk about:
Why “difficult” behavior is often a reflection of vulnerability, not malice
The parenting lens that helps reframe adult conflict with compassion
The role of personalisation and how to stop taking others’ behavior so personally
Practical strategies for managing tricky moments with grace
The friendship and collaboration that brought Beyond Difficult to life
Rachel and Jessie speak with warmth, humor, and candor about their own writing journeys, the lessons they’ve learned through research and clinical work, and why building self-awareness is key to healthier relationships.
This is a conversation for anyone navigating tension whether at work, at home, or in everyday encounters, and wanting tools to respond with clarity and heart.
Let this episode remind you: understanding others starts with understanding what’s underneath the behavior in front of you.
Connect with Rachel Samson
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Website: https://www.samsonandbulluss.com/index.php/Home
Connect with Dr. Jessie Stern:
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Website: https://www.drjessiestern.com/
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